Thanks for that – she was a very good test subject for revealing complexities within each BT. I chose #5, but acknowledged #13 as a possibility also for her. She may have some “secondary” #5 genetics coming through (another tidbit: when lots of shenanigans went on during the 2012 Olympics, she was very blunt about it and admitted it was happening – very straightforward, unlike the usually more political #13 that wants to promote an ideal instead of reality). Perhaps a parent or grandparent is an Empirical? I think we need to start acknowledging secondary characteristics among individuals that come through at times due perhaps to “recessive” genetics. As someone with #13 fcir parents and a #14 bcir grandfather, it’s no surprise my own type has been so difficult to decipher.